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How to Tell Kooky Nuts in the Addiction Field

1. When you say, "Wine reduces heart disease," kooky nut says, "Grape juice does too."

No it doesn't. All forms of alcohol prolong life for most groups (those at risk to die of heart disease). All forms of beverage made from the genus Vitis (grape plants) do not have this effect - just the alcoholic ones. Religious variation: Jesus didn't drink wine at the Last Supper (like every other Jew in the bible did for Passover) - he preferred grape juice, like the kooky nut telling you this story.

2. Kooky nut says: "If you take heroin long enough, you MUST be addicted."

And what about all those people in hospitals taking narcotics more concentrated than street heroin for weeks and months at a time, who then eventually reduce self-administered doses of analgesia (the standard response)? This myth, unfortunately, is sold at the highest levels of drug research (e.g., by Nora Volkow of the NIDA) because they know their jobs depend on their endorsement of zero-tolerance science.

3. If you have any kind of a drinking problem, kooky AA nut says, "You're in the early stages of alcoholism."

Let's see - you can either have blackouts, loss of control, and all those other things AAers say prove you're an alcoholic, or else you don't have them, which likewise proves you're an alcoholic, because you're going to get them. This is a favorite argument of alcohol counselors who are themselves alcoholics, who use the irrefutable logic - "That's what happened to me!" (Warning: Never argue with a kooky nut - it can be dangerous for your health and for their mental health.)

4. Kooky nut says, "No alcoholic ever succeeds at reducing their drinking. If someone does do so, then they were misdiagnosed as an alcoholic (see pt. 3)."

In the most famous kooky nut study ever published (in Science yet), Mary Pendery showed that alcoholic patients who received controlled drinking (CD) treatment had relapses. However, the original study of these patients indicated that CD patients fared better than those receiving abstinence treatment at the same facility, whom Pendery neglected to examine (although admitting they did very poorly). With one patient everyone agreed became a moderate drinker, Pendery endeavored mightily to prove he wasn't really an alcoholic originally, despite ending up in a VA alcoholism ward. At a national conference, Mary Pendery attacked my article in PT pointing this out. (Warning: Being a kooky nut can be dangerous to your health - Pendery took up with an alcoholic patient who underwent abstinence treatment at this facility, and he killed Pendery and himself while extremely intoxicated.)

5. Kooky nut says, "If AA helps even one patient, then I'm for forcing people into it."

Well, apricot pits have cured some cancer victims. The way we usually test clinical efficacy is to assign people with a problem randomly to different treatments, perhaps including no treatment, and compare their outcomes. This has been done several times with AA - in every case, AA participants fared worse than other subjects, including those receiving no treatment! Moreover, coerced AA patients may suffer significant negative events - up to and including suicide - as well as having their personal integrity violated. But who cares when you're a kooky nut?

 

Comments

Amen...

Stanton:

When I read Love and Addiction in college, it was a revelation both personally and professionally.

Now, working in this field for so many years, and continuing to following your work, all I can say to this article as a peer is...A-freakin'-men.

Thanks for everything you've given us, and continue to contribute, over the decades.

Blessings,
Michael


Thanks

This was a great post. I get so tired of the idea that self-report is not a valid form of appraisal when it comes to substance use. It doesn't matter if a person intuitively knows they don't have a problem because they are obviously just in denial. This type of black and white thinking takes away personal control and then expects a person to exert personal control at the same time. It says "You don't know what is best, so now you must reach deep inside and do what is best."

I am a very moderate drinker but in college I drank more frequently ( it was college). After coming home from a party I was given an MIP. I wasn't drunk (blew a .08) and was of no harm to myself or anyone else. The MSU police just needed a quota since alcohol was a problem on campus and who easier to arrest then someone who is basically sober and willing to cooperate. Anyway, because of this "run in with the law" I now score high on the "problem drinker" scale since, yes I have had a legal consequence for my drinking. I guess I must be a raging alcoholic and clearly in denial:)


AA is not for some folks. I

AA is not for some folks. I went to meetings for 3 years and then stopped going and stayed sober another 7 years on my own. I went out and got intoxicated, not to the point of blacking out, just 8 or 9 beers. I did it a couple more weekends and stopped because I didn't like the feeling and thought it none to smart of myself because I really like the taste of beer and it's effects. The problem is if you have more than 3 it's illegal to be anywhere other than home.


Gagh... Why does everyone

Gagh... Why does everyone still believe the kooky nuts?!! Do people listen to street preachers (who could very well go on to become addiction counselors themselves) when they carry on about the Lizard Machine? No? Then why listen to the same nonsense Bill Wilson made famous in the 20's? (everyone knows the standard "Powerlessness is power, Denial is acceptance, War is Peace" bull-doodoo).
If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go have a glass of grape juice!


Scary Kooky nuts --- it's so true

I am someone who gets evaluated every 3 months by a Kooky nut from Serenity Lane. He is AA completely, and thinks that I am in denial since I do SMART recovery, and am showing clear signs of drinking after his evaluation period is over (in 2 more years) because I "have trouble with my diagnosis". I have trouble with being diagnosed an alcoholic, when I got a DUI, but never had blackouts, etc, and volunteered for treatment instead of being in denial. Unless I spout back what he wants, he is going to "ding" me. SO I tell him what he wants. Then he doubts my sincerity. Unfortunately my license to work depends on his evaluations partially. So, I have to suck on Kooky Nuts. MmM.. salty. lol.


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