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Empathy, Mindblindness, and Theory of Mind

In a 2001 research paper, Simon Baron-Cohen describes Theory of Mind as "...being able to infer the full range of mental states (beliefs, desires, intentions, imagination, emotions, etc.) that cause action. In brief, having a theory of mind is to be able to reflect on the contents of one's own and other's minds." 

For many of those with autism or Asperger's, mindblindness, or lack of Theory of Mind creates major barriers to communication and closeness.  These barriers often lead to those nearest to the individual feel, whether real or perceived, a lack of empathy from the individual. 

When I think of Theory of Mind, I think of an amusing, but of course very inaccurate, belief I harbored as a young child.  While playing games like hide and seek, I used to think, "If I can't see them, they can't see me."  Of course, I learned very quickly that that was not the case.  However, the mindblindness of individuals with autism or Asperger's can be similar - "If I can't/don't feel it or perceive it, then they can't/don't feel it or perceive it" (or vice versa).

Take the following example typically used to test children's Theory of Mind skills:

Sally Ann Comic Strip - Theory of Mind

Someone who has a full grasp of Theory of Mind will immediately know that Sally will look where she last left the ball. She does not know that the ball has been moved.   A person with poor Theory of Mind skills will believe that Sally will look for the ball in the box, because they do not fully grasp that Sally will not know what Ann has done.  

While some professionals will say, as in a quote from Stephen Edelson Ph.D., "...many autistic individuals do not understand that other people have their own plans, thoughts, and points of view," I think this is overly simplistic.  For myself, I can say that I absolutely understand that people have their own plans, thoughts, and points of view - but those plans, thoughts, and points of view are often a mystery to me. 

Exploring possible causes, I begin to wonder -  is it possible that the mindblindness is partially due to the differences between autistic and non-autistic thought processes?  Could it be that people with autism/Asperger's are less mindblind with others like themselves?  I don't know, but it seems logical to me.  I know that I feel more at ease, more "on the same wavelength" with others like me.  

Norman Rockwell "The Golden Rule"So, here it comes - the "E" word - empathy.  On the wall in one of my childhood classrooms was a copy of Norman Rockwell's painting, "The Golden Rule."  I recall staring at those words, day after day as we lined up in the doorway  - "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."  It sank in.

From a young age, I incorporated that axiom into my belief structure.  But here's where the problem comes in - what I would want "done unto me" is entirely different than what another might want.  Likewise, "Putting myself in the other person's shoes" would have me doing something very different than what another person might envision doing in a similar situation.  So, the logic is faulty.

Men Are From Mars: Women Are From VenusBut - is a failure to fully grasp individual differences truly that unusual?    If it were, then why do we have so many relationship self-help books such as "Men Are From Mars: Women Are from Venus" or "The Five Love Languages", to help us decode each others' signals and thought processes?  If the population in general is so good at mind reading,   why do people need so much coaching to meet each others' needs?

The reality of the matter is that all people are different in their needs, and even "normal" (or as we prefer to call them, neurotypical) people seem to struggle to comprehend all of these differences.   So, where's the line between "normal" struggling, and "mindblindness?"

All this difficulty in understanding the thoughts and reactions of others lead many to say that people with autism or Asperger's lack empathy.   But, is this really true?   Is it really a lack of empathy, or a lack of understanding? 

I consider myself a very soft hearted person.  When a character in a movie or television show is embarrassed, I feel embarrassed for them.  When around someone who is crying, or in deep emotional pain, I often feel like crying with them, comforting them.   Many people with autism and Asperger's are very close to their pets, and are very nurturing and empathetic toward them. 

Could it be that the belief that autistic people lack empathy is really a lack of understanding of what people with autism and Asperger's understand about others' state of mind?

Zosia Zaks' article, "Myth: Autistic people lack empathy", explores this question, using the movie "Rain Man" as an example.   The typical interpretation of the movie has the autistic character, Raymond, doing things that could be characterized as lacking empathy.  But Zaks' article turns this interpretation on its head, wondering if, perhaps, it's not Raymond who's lacking the empathy, but the non-autistic character, Charlie.

In her article "Who cares? Or: The Truth about Empathy in Individuals of the Autism Spectrum," researcher Isabel Dziobek outlines her study on the subject of empathy.  Through the course of the study, more than 50 subjects on the spectrum were evaluated against neurotypical control subjects.  The results? To quote Ms. Dziobek - "More generally speaking, our data shows that people with Asperger syndrome have a reduced ability to read other peoples' social cues (such as facial expressions or body language) but once aware of another's circumstances or feelings, they will have the same degree of compassion as anyone else."

What do you think? 

Comments

Lynne, thank you for asking

Lynne, thank you for asking these questions.

As a woman who was assessed late in life with AS, I too question very profoundly this presumption that people with AS do not have feelings and empathy.

You give as an example, all the self-help relationship gurus, books and courses. Either that points to a very widespread difficulty amongst NTs in understanding others' feelings and motivations, or it means that many more of us are on the autistic spectrum!

Actually, I think the truth lies in between: AS particularly is just being recognised as a neurological mode that affects many more people than had previously been understood (Baron-Cohen's own Autism Centre research suggested 1:58 unofficially last year. I believe it's actually much higher than that). All the same, it's apparently not autistic people who start wars, see images of abused children every night on tv and do nothing, or walk past injured people in the street. In other words, it's not them and us, it's all of us who have difficulties to some degree or other with relating and empathy.

On a personal note, during a recent very debilitating illness I've experienced at first hand how extremely callous NT people can be on a routine basis. My access to treament and care seemed to be far more dependent on my ability to sweettalk people than on my actual medical needs. I've been routinely bullied and taken advantage of even by professionals and 'carers'. When I was in the hospital I saw autism specialists treating a physically poorly low functioning autistic man with the most appalling patronisation and even cruelty.

There's something else going on here. It's all too easy for people who believe themselves to be 'normal' to cast neurologically different people in this 'unempathic' light. I rather think that there's quite a deal of projection and scapegoating going on.

Most on the autistic spectrum (myself included, despite my 98%ile IQ) are naive about the social and other games that a large portion of the population plays. We are literal, we do take things at face value, we're mostly scrupulously honest. We're easy to con. Instead of counting these attributes as 'symptoms' and pathological, why are they not lauded and held up as characteristics to be emulated? Despite so much intellectual ability life is simple, straightforward and honest for us. Isn't this what many many people say they want?! A simpler, honest life?!

As to this 'mindblindness', I have a very full and deeply felt range of emotions- it just takes me a little while to interpret and label what they are. The psychologist explained that this was due to reduced connections, a minimised corpus callosum, between the right and left hemispheres. If it takes me a while to work out my own feelings, then of course it's going to take me a commensurate time to work out others' feelings and motivations. I just cannot play the devious games that a large portion of the population seems to thrive on. Tell me, in a real fix, who would you prefer to have on your side? Someone who has a propensity to being two-faced and manipulative or someone who is upfront, honest to the core?

But these are simplistic ways of putting it. Understanding of AS, even amongst those who consider themselves to be experts, is rudimentary and very much in its infancy. It's my belief that we're going to find that some day AS brains will be credited with some and even many of the world's greatest achievements. Now that experts are beginning to attribute autistic traits to such as Einstein, Mozart, Dickinson, Austen, Jefferson, Thoreau, Spielberg, Gore et al I think we're going to have to revisit just what it is that bugs us about smart, naive, honest, straightforward folks who mostly see the world and think very differently from the majority.


Empathy

"If the population in general is so good at mind reading, why do people need so much coaching to meet each others' needs?" This is a point I've been making for some time. We see all around us "normal" people making serious errors in understanding others, including the rarely-met expectation that your significant other or a friend will understand what you want or what you mean without your having to spell it out.

Articles like this are sorely needed in providing a more nuanced look at what people on the spectrum understand, and showing how very little different from the norm that can be.


There's only one mental

There's only one mental disease that causes a lessening or complete retardation of emotion and that's depression. And you have no sign of that,your column continues to fascinate me. sincerely David Petropoulos


I think that's a key point,

I think that's a key point, David. AS is NOT a mental disease. It's actually a different brain wiring. It's not a pathology. In fact, I am quite interested that the subject of AS has found a home, generally speaking, within the psychology community. Isn't this a physiological difference we're talking about?

Having thought much about my own brain functioning since the assessment, I have come to a working understanding that conventional psychological tools and techniques are not really that appropriate. I looked again at the Sally/Ann example. I believe there's a big flaw in this methodology. Psychologists have everywhere latched onto this 'mindblindness' and have proclaimed it as The Problem with us AS people.

Faced with this set of sequential pictures - a conventional psychological test format - I am almost blinded. Too much information, too much 'snow', too much having to keep information in my working memory in a way that the psychologist choses. Under the pressure of test circumstances, I would say anything to make it stop! In other words, this sort of test proves what the tester wants it to prove. For the most part, it simply shows that my brain does not work like an NT's. I don't believe it demonstrates mindblindness or pathology

Left to my own devices and neurological processes, I know I'd come up with the correct interpretation. I know my brain well enough by now to understand that it skips around such sequences and gets sidetracked by other incoming data (the overwhelming smell of the psychologist's perfume...the buzzing of the room heater...the watermark on the test paper...Ann's shiny earrings...Sally's postbox mouth...). And this is the crucial point: AS brains do not work like NT brains. Why use NT orientated tests on them then?! It's just like using US culturally specific IQ tests on New Guinea tribespeople! The only possible utility would be to demonstrate how 'deficient' a New Guinea person's thinking skills are.


I believe my late husband

I believe my late husband had Asperger's. He was diagnosed as bipolar shortly before he died, but it didn't fit for a lot of reasons.

He learned how to get by in life. I'm sure that is why he wasn't diagnosed. But he couldn't learn empathy. He could learn the actions and the behavior of others in similar situations, but he didn't understand what was behind them. Maybe he did understand that other people had thoughts and feelings that were different from his, but the connection between him and those other thoughts and feelings was missing.

He learned how to be in a relationship just as he learned how to have a conversation. Yes, eventually after he and I had many arguments, he figured out that conversation wasn't a monologue and that he needed to let others speak. But he had no interest in what others had to say. He was only waiting for others to shut up so he could pick up from where he left off.

In same way, he simulated the actions of somone in a relationship, but it wasn't reciprocal. I'm sure he felt and experienced love. But it was a selfish kind of love--on his terms, his time frame, with what he was able to give. The consideration for other's needs or feelings beyond what he experienced did not exist for him.

It's my belief that Asperger's and austim is not just another way of being. it's robs people of the ability to truly and fully experience humanity.


Narcissism or AS?

Denise,

I'm truly sorry to hear about your late husband. Bless your heart.

However, it seems like he may have been a narcissist, the heir of a pathological personality, not someone with AS.

How someone behaves depends on their brain wiring, their upbringing, and life experiences. Narcissism is a disorder of the personality, often influenced by how one is raised; Unlike those with AS, Narcissists can be very socially adept, even manipulative. Wielding a formidable lack of empathy, narcissists are able to use and abuse others.

Nevertheless, this lack of empathy is the hallmark of narcissism. Those with AS do not necessarily lack empathy, they merely think on a different level than "normal" people.

However, you knew him best. It is your call.


Theoretical behavior

Regarding Simon Baron-Cohen's description of the autistic spectrum in terms of systematizer/empathizer measure- it seems more of a classification of symptoms rather than a theory that explains misbehavior. I am not a psychologist, however I am dismayed that there is so much controversy over the problem of childhood behavior disorders. Maybe an alternative measure, between rationality and (perhaps call it) conditionality, might provide better insight into the nature of disorder and how people react to it.

Nowadays public schools emphasize teaching students to think, rather than rote learning. They stress rational methods, to the extent that a successful person is brought up to automatically define the opposite of rationality as irrationality. For example, well-educated people frequently negotiate behavior with their children. They do so because they believe it is never too early to teach rationality. They offer choices, count to three, and explain the reasons why the child should behave. Many kids have an instinct for reason, and respond very well to that kind of upbringing.

I think a conditional child understands the world and other people in terms of people's habits, not their thoughts. Their world is mainly one of stimulus and response, which is why nagging is a reinforcement to them. Their behavior is the stimulus, and the parent's reminders are the response. They act immature because an infant's viewpoint is entirely conditioning. I suggest parents ought to focus on their habits, train them towards self-control and save the explanations until they are older.

The constant argument between disciplinarians and proponents of diagnosis is self-defeating for our society, and especially so for families. Parents often write, "behavior therapy did not work". Positive behavior support is the prevailing method, and many excellent reasons exist for following it. My hope is that parents who recognize conditionality in a child will have the reason they require to follow methods with more structure and less thinking.


Are aspies less mind-blind with other aspies?

I'm a bit nervous about saying this, but, as a person with Aspberger's who works with two other aspies, in my experience I actually have more problems dealing with my two aspie coworkers then the other staff.

My NT coworkers are much faster at figuring out when I'm stressed, annoyed, or not interested. I also find them much easier to read, though to be fair I've spent a lot of time studying body language.

The NT co-workers also, after having been informed of my difficulties, tend to be more supportive. This isn't necessarily evidence of insensitivity though - if I am feeling stressed by something, there's a decent chance that the other aspies are also feeling stressed and so are less able to deal with others.


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