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Another mainstream article makes the press about corrupt doctors taking pharmaceutical industry money. The June 8 New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/us/08conflict.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=Biederman&st=nyt&oref=slogin) reported on a US Senate investigation into poor disclosure of millions of dollars in income provided by pharmaceutical companies to Harvard child psychiatry researchers at Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH). Like Dr. Peter Kramer ("In Practice" blog http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-practice/200806/drug-research-and-financial-bias), I too have carefully followed the work of the MGH research group, both for their research on childhood bipolar disorder (with which I agree in large part) and their research on ADHD in adults (with with I disagree in general). Regarding treatment, my own experience and research has tended to be opposite to theirs: I have found amphetamine stimulants (especially methylphenidate) and antipsychotics to be less effective and more harmful than they have reported. Has their optimism about medications been biased by their profits? Perhaps; perhaps not. There are plenty of profits to go around, and just as much can be made these days bashing medications as marketing them.

Consider this new genre of books: Overdosed America: The broken promise of American medicine; Comfortably Numb: How psychiatry is medicating a nation; The loss of sadness: How psychiatry transformed normal sadness into disorder; The medicalization of society: On the transformation of human conditions into treatable disorders; Against happiness: In praise of melancholy; Overtreated: Why too much medicine is making us sicker and poorer; Selling sickness: How the world's biggest pharmaceutical companies are turning us all into patients; The truth about the drug companies: How they deceive us and what to do about it.

Okay. We get it.

I see no books defending the pharmaceutical industry, or the principles of capitalism, for that matter. Not that I would argue for such tomes, but the sheer number and vigor of this current trend suggests we pause a moment. Let me preface my comments by saying that I agree with the gist of many of these critiques: The pharmaceutical industry can, and has, overmarketed drugs and reaped excessive profits for some marginally effective or questionably safe medications. And, academic medicine can be, and has been, complicit in some of these practices. This needs to change.

However, I wonder whether we will get the change we need from a one-sided, adversarial approach. Further, the logic behind the specific focus on the pharmaceutical industry is not entirely obvious to me.

Is the problem profits per se? If so, we are left with this dilemma: we like capitalism in principle, but we dislike it in practice - or at least in medical practice. Maybe that's the answer: perhaps medicine should not have a profit motive; it should be cleansed from any capitalist basis. So....socialized medicine? Like Canada?

No, that seems too radical. But why pick on the pharmaceutical industry, and let other forms of profit go? How about the profits generated for authors and the book industry from all those books? Is there a conflict of interest there? Or how about the profits in the private practice of medicine? If research doctors are corrupt because they are making millions of dollars from their links to the pharmaceutical industry, how is that different from those private practice doctors in Beacon Hill, and Park Avenue, and indeed on Main Street, making millions of dollars in their practice of medicine for money? Should we join our British cousins? Let doctors get salaries from the government - let us remove all exchange of fees, and turn medicine into a purely non-profit craft.

I personally would not fear such an outcome, and some critics of the pharmaceutical industry - like Physicians for a National Health Program - have proposed it. Such honesty would be refreshing, in fact. Let all the researchers give up their consulting fees; and let all the private practice doctors give up their clinical fees.

But we seem too liberated for such a solution. We should, some critics seem to say, stop some people from making profits, while letting others proceed.

The illogic of this critique suggests we need to approach this problem with less moralizing, and more pragmatism. What exactly is the problem that concerns us?

Here I have to add a second preface: My further comments stem from my own experience as a psychopharmacology researcher, one who has done research funded by pharmaceutical companies, and who has received income from speaking fees for those companies. Further, I know the specific persons mentioned in the NY Times article personally, having been their colleague for a time at Massachusetts General Hospital and in Harvard. Perhaps this personal background introduces some bias, but it may also allow me some insights:

The problem of money and academics is complex. On the one hand, the public and our profession supports research; we are told research is a good thing. On the other hand, the federal government (the NIMH) provides very little money for research (at least in clinical psychiatry). Thus if funds from the pharmaceutical industry are not used, we will have less research. Perhaps we are willing to accept this result; but we need to be clear that it would follow. Further, hospitals and universities encourage research because they earn money from it, whether it is NIMH funded or pharmaceutical industry funded. If we stop such research, hospitals and universities would have more economic problems; again, perhaps we will accept this, but we need to know it could happen. Reality: the average academic researcher makes about 1/3 less income than the average non-academic physician. The extra income made by lecturing for pharmaceutical companies usually brings academic incomes to the norm of most doctors; usually academics do not get rich, they simply join their peers, with such income. If such extra funds are stopped, we will incentivize fewer doctors to become researchers. Many will continue to do so, due to their scientific commitment to knowledge, but some may not be able to do so for financial reasons; perhaps we can accept this, but this too can be a result of cutting the connection between the pharmaceutical industry and research.

The problem of conflict of interest is even more complex: One book says we should just follow the money. I suppose Karl Marx would agree. He has a point, but if matters were this simple, Leningrad would now be the capital of the free world. I have found that it is generally a bad idea to try to infer others' intentions. Humans do things for many reasons, most of which are opaque to us; the driving force is sometimes money, sometimes prestige, fear, lust, insecurity. It is hard to tell why people do what they do. If I had to guess which motivation matters most, I would say prestige rather than money. In any case, it is not straightforward to infer bias based on receiving income from the pharmaceutical industry. Why are not such inferences made in all those books-for-profit written in critique of the pharmaceutical industry?

There is corruption: some academics have made excessive profits and have been biased in their research and teaching. Some pharmaceutical companies have done likewise. There is a need to clean up this relationship. But I believe we should turn to the substance of what is at issue, rather than inferring motivations or judging others' ethics. Let us look at the actual research that is being done, critique the stands that academics take, and apply valid scientific standards to claims that are made. And let us set up and enforce policies that keep academic-pharmaceutical industry relations within reasonable bounds, while at the same time providing more government funds for research.

I will write much more about this topic; it is too large and too hot to handle briefly. But for now let me end with a personal conversation I recently had with a prominent psychiatric researcher who also has been the target of media criticism for his pharmaceutical ties; he dismissed it all as a "witch hunt." I think he was in the wrong on a number of matters and that he overhyped certain medications. I have published my critiques of those specific issues of substance and I have lectured and taught about them widely. So I do not agree with him. But, humans have many faults, and being judgmental is one of them. This is not just a witch hunt, but it can easily degenerate into one.

 

 

 

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Biases

Nassir:

Larry Diller here. I've read some of your work Nassir and while I respect your erudition I'm not always sure I understand your point or agree (for example your book attacking the biopsychosocial approach to mental health/illness -- I never quite got it but thought it might be a defense of the department of psychiatry at Harvard -- but I admit I may not have quite gotten it). Still, Nassir you appear to criticize the recent gaggle of books addressing the influence of the drug industry on American medicine. Note Nassir that Big Pharma runs ads on TV and magazines multiple times a day -- a so much greater influence on public opinion than these mostly academic tomes. Regardless of individual probity, the data is clear that industry funded studies tilt toward the pro-drug side of things. You raise very reasonable points about funding, research, incomes, capitalism etc.. But practically speaking doctors are in the process of losing their credibility with their close economic ties to the drug industry. This is a return to more than 100 years ago. I don't trust a Biederman study much any more and I'm on the front line depending on guys like you and Biederman to make things clearer. Anyway, I know I'm not always mainstream but I think I do represent some of the concerns of physicians on the front-lines with my position.


Dear Larry:Many thanks for

Dear Larry:

Many thanks for your comment. I agree that credibility is in question. I don't think the solution is simply to believe or disbelieve the research, or any particular researcher, but rather to critique that research, using understanding of scientific methods. Now I appreciate and agree that we as academics have not done a good and honest enough job of engaging in that kind of objective scientific critique. That is a profound responsibility that we need to take up. I also think, though, that every individual practitioner has a responsibility to read and understand science. It is not enough to read the abstract and conclusions, and then either believe or disbelieve based on pharmaceutical industry funding or the reputation of the researcher. The methods sections needs to be understood and analyzed. Obviously, the msot complex studies will be challenging, but most of this research is rather straightforward, and with one-tenth of the effort we spent learning histology in medical school, the average clinician can understand it. I am working on a book right now to try to translate this level of statistical knowledge to clinicians.

I also agree that Big Pharma has the marketing advantage. But I don't think that the best response to the one-sided and biased advertisements of the pharmaceutical industry is to publish a slew of one-sided and biased anti-pharmaceutical industry books. Neither are credible.

To me, the crux of much of this gets to how we understand science. Science is not about adversarial viewpoints that compete with each other, and in fact glory in such confrontation - as, say, in the law, or in the political theory of democracy (countervailing forces). In science, we actually believe there is a truth, and we need to find and speak the truth. This is not the same, by the way, as being "balanced", a phrase commonly used in our current debates about conflict of interest; one cannot be "balanced" about the truth: the truth is the truth. If I show in my research that lithium level of 5.0 will kill patients, it is not anyone's responsibility, nor at all appropriate, for others to try to do research that shows that a lithium level of 5.0 is safe. Unfortunately, much of our thinking about such matters is suffused with a cultural postmodernsim, with deeply held assumptions about the relativity of truth. (Daniel Dennett's lecture on Postmodernism and Truth is a good source on this: http://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/papers/postmod.tru.htm).

Part of what I am doing in my book, and in my critique of the biopsychosocial model, is to show how harmful such blithe eclecticism is to our field; where anything goes, we all end up either confused, or believing that there is no truth to the matter. And then it is easy for those with the finances and a special interest (whether the pharmaceutical industry, or managed care, or others) to influence the profession unduly.

I'll plan other posts to spell these ideas out more. But in all this, I agree with your general point, though, that our profession has lost credibility due to our relations with industry.


I enjoy your thoughts here,

I enjoy your thoughts here, Nassir, and look forward to reading your book.

But I have to disagree with your last point. In my opinion, your profession has lost credibility due to widespread incompetence. This opinion is based, in part, from talking with hundreds of people who have pursued mental healthcare in the last eight years. It's also based on familiarity with protocols--and knowing how few docs follow them.

Thanks also to psychiatrists who "treat one molecule" without understanding that there is a body attached, we have a nation of people suffering needless side effects and swearing off medication forever. Medication that could enhance their lives tremendously.

These people largely can't believe that their highly educated physicians can be so inept (cognitive dissonance), so they blame the medication, pharma, and the researchers who develop the medications.

We've lost a few generations to this clinical ineptitude and likely a few generations more, if grandstanding politicians and psychiatrists who don't "get it" have their way. As long as ignorant people, including psychiatrists, keep playing into the hands of politicians whose campaigns are funded by insurance companies, we all stand to lose the marvelous advances that neuroscience has given us. And that would be a grave tragedy.


Practices

Hi there,

I think you are mistaken to focus on the issue of profit per se, as the criticism is largely about business practices and lack of transparency.

It is perfectly possible to be a profitable pharmaceutical company without burying data, manipulating outcomes, disease mongering, pressuring academic departments and off label promotion, which are widespread.

Furthermore, ghostwriting, giving soft money to researchers, advertising to consumers, influencing conference line-ups and giving gifts to doctors, are in my opinion, ethically dubious, but are made ethically unacceptable if the full extent of influence is not available to the public or other professionals.

A profit driven drug development system is clearly a powerful and important force in the advance of medicine, but it needs to be done ethically and transparently.

The recent press criticism of the Harvard researchers is not about payments, its about undeclared payments. Whether one wants to defend industry ties or not, I doubt anyone would defend lack of transparency in this area.

As an aside, I'm afraid your comments about 'socialised medicine' as a system 'cleansed from any capitalist basis' and without a 'profit motive' are way off the mark.

What I suspect you're referring to with references to the UK and Canadian health systems is essentially a socialised health insurance scheme. At least in the UK, services within the National Health service, and, of course, commercial companies that provide drugs and services, have to remain profitable or they cease to exist. The same issues apply.

All the best,
Vaughan


I agree with your point

I agree with your point about the issue being nondisclosure but I also think the amounts are relevant: they are seen as a problem of excess profit, though perhaps not profit per se. My post was intended to bring out this kind of nuance. Even if such high profits are disclosed, the perception of bias would remain. Many agree now that disclosure by itself is simply not enough to address the problem of bias in relations with the pharmaceutical industry.

Though this is not directly part of your comment, it seems to me that many critics have a problem with excess profit for academics in particular, and the pharmaceutical industry as well. I agree this is a problem. However, I wonder why we still apply it uniquely here. For instance, if a I write a anti-pharmaceutical industry book, and it becomes a best-seller, and I make millions, does it mean that my book is thus more biased than a similar book that does not sell well? Another example: if a researcher makes a discovery that leads to high profits for his university (such as millions produced by developing a new drug for HIV), is that research thereby to be deemed biased, compared to another researcher's work which produces no profit?

I think tying more dollars to more bias is not logically correct, though I also agree that better, more transparent, more honest, and less marketing-oriented business practices should be demanded from the pharmaceutical industry, and that medical academics needs to limit and control its relations such that the profit motive does not play a central role in the academic world.


Could you explain what you

Could you explain what you mean here, please:

... I too have carefully followed the work of the MGH research group, both for their research on childhood bipolar disorder (with which I agree in large part) and their research on ADHD in adults (with with I disagree in general). Regarding treatment, my own experience and research has tended to be opposite to theirs: I have found amphetamine stimulants (especially methylphenidate) and antipsychotics to be less effective and more harmful than they have reported.

1. What do you disagree with in Biederman et al's approach to ADHD in adults? And what is your basis of disagreement?

2. You know that methylphenidate is not an amphetamine, right?

Thanks


I will put up a new post to

I will put up a new post to raise my concerns about overdiagnosis of ADHD and overuse of stimulants.

On your second question, though, I hear this all the time, as if to excuse methylphenidate as safe and untainted from the associations with amphetamines. The distinction is claimed that amphetamines are direct stimulants of dopamine receptors while MPH is supposed to block reuptake of dopamine and norepinephrine. Either way, the dopamine system is stimulated. For what it is worth, according to DrugDex, MPH is classified as "amphetamine-related" and MicroMedex says "the drug has similar pharmacological properties as the amphetamines." I don't think the claim that is just unrelated (and by implication safe) is correct. My posting soon will lay out its risks.


NHS = lousy psychiatric care

Vaughn wrote:

As an aside, I'm afraid your comments about 'socialised medicine' as a system 'cleansed from any capitalist basis' and without a 'profit motive' are way off the mark.

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Boy, is that the truth! As the leader of an international online support group for Adult ADHD, I can tell you that our members who deal with socialized medicine have a disastrously hard time finding competent care, much less good medications. And that's saying something, because it's difficult enough here, even in our large cities and even with good insurance.

In fact, members from the UK, Australia, and elsewhere often grow bitterly envious after learning about the success stories among the U.S. and Canadian members. Their NHS care providers mostly fail to acknowledge ADHD, much less treat it. They must chase down the few private-practice specialists and pay out of pocket for very expensive medications. Unfortunately, ADHD itself can be an impediment to accumulating wealth, so they often do without.


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