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The Internet and Suicide suicide

I have promised to come back to the issue of our media-crazed culture and look at how and to what extent it's good and bad for us. But other issues keep intruding like Sydney Pollack's death. Now another death-related issue, and, to my way of thinking, another media psychology issue, has cut into line. So, I promise I will get back to Media-Crazed Culture, Part Deux, but I wanted to get this issue off my chest-mind so I can take a nap after a 5 mile walk this morning.

Almost 25 years ago a university colleague experienced one of the ultimate and indelible horrors of parenthood -- having a teen age child commit suicide. There was a perplexity surrounding this death: Was it accidental or intentional?

Today we have viral videos which spread across the Internet cosmos at nanospeeds. But back then, fads and fashions spread more slowly, but still faster than common sense would advocate and still-emerging patterns of disasters could inform. One such fad was cutting off oxygen to the brain while trying to achieve orgasms of Richter scale dimensions.

This Holy Grail of sexual highs was accomplished by putting a noose around the neck and doing a controlled strangulation. Problem was, some people executed the maneuver ineptly and the controlled choke was uncontrolled. Brain damage or death occurred in too many instances. To this day my colleague can never be sure if the child's death was a sexual thing gone wrong or a suicidal thing gone right.

Absent definitive information one way or the other, parents of children who get damaged or die because of foolish misadventures into sex-, alcohol-, or drug-related risky business, may have to choose between intention and accident to explain the oftentimes unexplainable. It sets up a dilemma of reasoning: would I prefer to believe my child died by accident or that they intended to take their life?

The ramifications of each choice carry heavy burdens, but an intentional suicide seems to make it easier for the parent to blame themselves in myriad ways (e.g., Why didn't I see the signs? Where did I go wrong? Did he need a stronger hand?).

Neither way of death is without an abyss of parental pain. But pain over a stupid sex experiment may yield less self-blame than pain from knowing that one's child found life unbearably tormenting or interminably painful and that the child's quiver of coping skills was inadequate to the task.

Recently, I spoke with another parent who had definitive evidence that his child committed suicide 20 odd years ago rather than dying accidentally. The child's death altered his life in every conceivable way, as it did for the colleague discussed earlier.

In our conversation, I posed an admittedly touchy question to this parent: What if, at the time, his teenage child had had access to the Internet? Is it possible that she might have gotten on some chat room site or forum? Might she have Googled search terms like suicide, thoughts of death, teenage depression, etc., and found evidence or information or anonymous listeners, any of which or whom could have guided her away from suicide?

The parent now works with teens in matters related to teen suicide and has considerable experience with the multi-faceted subject. He listened to my question, reflected for a moment and then quickly answered, "Yes, I think it's certainly possible." Was that a flash of pain I saw in his eyes?

Why was I asking, he was curious to learn. "Research for a paper," I told him. "I want to look at the possible therapeutic value something as truly borderline-miraculous as the Internet can offer people today, especially young people." We both understood that young people are so much more comfortable and deft with the Internet and its social aspects than are most adults, whose formative years were essentially ‘offline'."

So, what am I getting at here? Let me frame the issues as research questions for us to possibly explore together:
1. In what way can people who might be alone and confused with their pain but too embarrassed or uncertain about reaching out to those around them, find the Internet an option for exploring new alternatives to coping with the pain?

2. Might the Internet be a better, more selectable option for someone uncomfortable with talking to a counselor in person or calling a suicide hotline? The counselor and the hotline involve talking in real time to another person, an exchange that for many seems to risk more unwanted self- or identity-exposure than might an Internet exchange.

A key component of safe, secure, self-exploration may be the anonymity that the variety of Internet venues offers today. Anonymity may work for many so that they're not alone in their thoughts and concerns and pain. Traveling the Internet for the input of others may work to divert energy away from creating a psychological isolation, away from constructing an enabling psychological space wherein someone may more easily talk oneself into reaching for the "suicide solution."

Obviously any inquiry into the dynamics of Internet psychological resource building is also applicable to the dynamics of externalizing anger and despair onto others as in the modern spate of mass murders on school campuses and in work or other public settings; or even engaging in what has become known as "suicide by cop," where someone who can't take their own life but can, by public, criminal actions, provoke a policeman into doing it for them. For the present, however, I'm focused on the matter of suicide.

You're reading this blog so you're probably aware that the news has recently been filled with stories of teens brutalizing other teens via Internet sites like MySpace. In some egregious instances, this cruelty has led those targeted teens to acts of suicide. But there is this positive side to the Internet social interaction and information gathering sites as well. I am extremely interested in any thoughts you may have on the value of the Internet in coping with personal problems, suicidal thinking, or other states of emotional pain. Do you know details of anyone who has benefited from turning to the net to find answers and roadmaps to resolving crucial psychological problems? Your input and feedback will be much appreciated.

Psychologists often like to talk about what's wrong with new media technologies (e.g., internet addiction, TV couch potatoes). I would like to look at the other side of the coin for a change.

 

Comments

The internet has the ability to save lives.

I am a teen with severe depression who attributes the fact that I am typing here right now to the internet.

I struggled with depression for many years and do to this day. It started in the 5th grade and spanned till now at 16. I contemplated suicide for years and was too afraid to reach out. I had belonged to internet forums for years and after discovering new friends on them I finally found the courage to reach out to them. The anonymity provided by this, that I didn't have to talk to them directly or even hear their voices, helped me to reach out. With their help I sought help for myself and now do a lot better.While I was struggling they were always there for me. They helped me through many a night where I didn't believe I would make it. I truly believe that were the internet not there I would not be alive today.The internet is a beautiful network that allows many to reach out without fear.


The internet has the ability to save lives

Morgan,

Thank you for your articulate and candid reply to my request. I'm sure there are many "silent readers" who will read your words with interest and a lot of empathy and head nodding at shared truths. Others may get motivation from your words to try new paths to self-help and mutuality of understanding.

Stuart


I have struggled with major

I have struggled with major depression since my teen years. I am now 35 and still deal with it. The internet has definetely been a positive at times when I am at my lowest. No one is critical of my thoughts and accepts that this is who I am and I am not condemned for my thoughts.I have and continue to take all the right steps for improvement but this has been with me for 20 years and I don't know if it will ever go away.


I have struggled with major

Kayla,

Thanks for your reply. Over the years you have been dealing with depression, have different aspects of going on the net helped in different ways? Does writing thoughts give you something different than, say, hearing other people's takes on depression and coping?

Stuart


Stuart~ Writing my thoughts

Stuart~
Writing my thoughts is accepting that this is real and I am not condemned for what I feel. Just as, when I read someone's story and I can completely relate and feel for what they are going thru, there is no judgement or stigma attached to it. And suprisingly, there is a sense of calm that goes with that. I am in therapy and when I have really low points, I feel it is an issue for sometimes my therapist feels that he is condoning the negative. That is something that can make one feel more alone than they already do and that just deepens the spiral.


writing my thoughts

So, your saying that when you write your thoughts to others while on the net it feels free to be you with your depression. Thanks for making that clear.

As as aside,it might be a good idea to let your therapist know what you think about his/her worrying that they might be or might be seen as condoning the negative. Your perception might be right or it might be wrong. In either case, the subject is open for discussion with the therapist, and that can't be bad.

Stuart


Anonymity is key

As a therapist, I work with only adolescents and so I have had an opportunity to experience first hand how teens deal with emotional trauma. I think the internet is an invaluable resource for helping teens cope with dark thoughts or deeply personal struggles. I fully understand my responsibility to report homocidal or suicidal ideation but as soon as I give out the disclosure statement ( including reporting incidents of suspected child abuse) I feel some clients clam up. If a teen was or is being abused, they may wish to talk about it without thier abuser being reported and thier personal pain going public. They may wish to talk about wanting to die without being forced into a psychiatric treatment center. The internest is an awsome, anonymous support system and I encourage those who I suspect are holding back for legal reasons to reach out anonymously for help. I feel all mandatory reporters and helping professionals should be aware of anonymous resources for thier clients. I am trying to familiarize myself with some, so if anyone has a site they think is helpful, I'd apprecite knowing about it.


Anonymity is key

Thanks for the input, Becky. Anonymity can be very freeing. It's an incredibly important psychological variable, especially since we're social animals and the mere presence of others in our space alters our thoughts, actions, and feelings.

On the matter of your patients, the teenagers, have any of them reported that being on the Internet has altered what might be a suicidal thoughts or acts and sought to cope with a problem or condition in a different fashion?

Stuart


Writing my thoughts

I believe there is such a negative attached with suicide and the internet. Yet, what most don't understand is that these sites are there where everyone can relate to eachother, there is no explanation needed as to the depth of feelings that occur. And in essence, majority of the individuals are here and have not chosen the negative path of finality, even if that is what they feel.

That aside, I have been very open with my therapist about him feeling as if he is "condoning" the negative. It's just something that he does not like to focus on, which I understand; positive over negative, but sometimes there are things that need to be said without the worry of hospitalization. The feeling of wanting to end ones life and acting on it are entirely different.
This is something that I have dealt with for 20 years, on and off, inpatient at 15, two attempts and I still have yet to find my place. At this point, I have come to accept this is part of my life, I don't know if that is right or wrong but, at the moment, it is reality and I take it day by day.


Personal experience, on the postive side

I will say that in my younger years (being 16 now, I'm speaking of 13-14) I was in a very socially isolated situation. At that time i personally found the internet to be of great resource in finding other people to talk to. These people, while only known over the internet, often became close friends that I'm still in contact with today.

I cannot say with 100% assuredy that without such communication with people there would've been serious attempts on my life. I can however say that it helped, if nothing else, keep the thoughts under control to some extent by knowing that I'd never have to face these people in person. Which when people know your most secure thoughts is greatly relaxing.


personal experience positive

Jonathon,

Greatly relaxing, yes. Relaxing is a good word, I think. Someone recently told that being able toshare thoughts and not have to worry about seeing people later,not worrying about judgment, and seeking to handle stressors or other annoying inputs from outside or inside their heads, handling them at their own pace and using the Internet as a resource, at their own pace, was most helpful.

Thanks for your input. I hope things continue to go well for you.

Stuart


Ya the parent deserve it

Look at yourself and look at your bady, are you producing another bastard , prostitute, drug addict and criminal in society. Lucky the children commit soiciety and let the parent know they have fail, if not more and more bastard, prostitute, drug addict and criminal is produced in society. Lousy parenting is to blame end of the day.

Dont be childish, what internet to prevent suicide, dont cry also, the mistake is made and the answer lies simply in proper parenting and communciation.
Love, care and communciation between parent and child, they feel enough love before the idea of suicide is possible. (why other people children never commit cuicide is the answer and look at criminal to see the more obvious result too.)


communication

Well Stuart, there are just some people
who never received validation for their pain and
want to leave something for the world to see.
Suicide is final, all chances of overcoming gone.

I say blog away, text, video, do what you have to do
people. Don't stop telling your story ! There are
people out there that need to know that its ok to speak about it now, if you can't speak, type it, write it, but if you desire nice comforting comments on what you put out there on the internet....ummm.. thats a gamble, stakes too high.


high stakes on the Net

As you say, put it out there. A personal diary can serve that function as well, of course, but you don't get the feedback. High stakes, high risks, perhaps. But the chances of something positive, helpful, corrective, coming back to and for you are infinitely greater with Net talking than "my own private diary" talking.

Both forums for self-expression, the private and the public, can be valuable because you're externalizing and inspecting what is often only internal and uninspected. Either way, it can only help. The stakes are too high only if you approach self-disclosures with naive or unrealistic expectations. But, quickly one can self-correct and then seek what is realistically reachable via the net platform. There's a learning curve to self-disclosure as there is to anything else that improves with practice.

Stuart


I dealt with suicidal

I dealt with suicidal feelings and depression during 7th-11th grade. It breaks my heart to see people who are internally suffering and cannot seek help (or feel no one will help them). I feel very strongly about the subject and offered to listen to my friends who are suffering from the same problems.
I have also decided I'm going to become a clinical psychologist and help suicidal people.

A big organization that helps people is "To Write Love On Her Arms." They are a non-profit organization that branches into helplines for people who need them. If you are interested: www.twloha.com

The internet was a big help for me, and I hope I can pass their message along


internet help

A.D.,

Thanks for you comments and for the link for those who might need it.

Stuart


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